- 甚兵衛 is Jinbei. Ordinary farmers didn't have surname.--Shikisoku 07:09, 3 October 2006 (PDT)
- Just going off the books in front of me. Why do they list Jin Hiei? Nagaeyari 10:46, 3 October 2006 (PDT)
Which book did you refer?--Shikisoku 07:53, 4 October 2006 (PDT)