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:We do need a page - I think Bethetsu is working one up - she's the expert on the various names. --[[User:Shogun|Kitsuno]] 21:52, 1 February 2007 (PST)
:We do need a page - I think Bethetsu is working one up - she's the expert on the various names. --[[User:Shogun|Kitsuno]] 21:52, 1 February 2007 (PST)
::It was uncommon to ''call'' someone by his full name. Though it was fairly common to write someone's full name in some formal documents. [[User:Seven|Seven]] 22:32, 1 February 2007 (PST)
:The whole "formal name" thing is sort of new to me, and it looks like shikisoku put it up on the forum for discussion - we'll get a concensus eventually. --[[User:Shogun|Kitsuno]] 23:01, 1 February 2007 (PST)
==Names?==
Just a friendly suggestion; I started to read this article today and came across this part: "In March, They named Mibu Roshigumi. The Mibu Roshigumi was hired by Aizu han the Military Commissioner of Kyoto In August, they were dispatched for the Political change on August 18. Lord Matsudaira Katamori evaluated their job and gave them new name Shinsengumi." The first sentence is of unclear meaning. Also, this passage tells that the name of the group was changed, but it doesn't say why or even what either of the names mean. While this would be easy to discover using an online kanji dictionary, I think these things would be very helpful and convenient to most people. Thanks. [[User:Azuki Arai|Azuki Arai]] 10:03, 16 March 2007 (PDT)
:This article is still mostly Shikisoku's draft that needs to be edited. It does say right in what you included that "Lord Matsudaira Katamori evaluated their job and gave them new name Shinsengumi." - so the name was changed to Shinsengumi from "Mibu Roshigumi", the first sentence meant that they "(were) named Mibu Roshigumi". I'll try to edit this today if I get a chance. --[[User:Shogun|Kitsuno]] 15:41, 16 March 2007 (PDT)
::Right, it does say that but what I was trying to say is that it doesn't say what these two names mean and why it was thought that Shinsengumi was a better name than Mibu Roshigumi. This could only take a sentence or two to clear up, and I think it would improve the article's clarity. I realize that this and many of the articles here are still in draft stages, and I wasn't trying to complain or point out error, only to add a friendly suggestion. Thanks. [[User:Azuki Arai|Azuki Arai]] 14:40, 17 March 2007 (PDT)
:Ah - I didn't think you were complaining, but I didn't understand what you meant, apparently. Yeah, something saying how "Mibu" was where they were located and "roushi" is equivalent to "ronin", etc. Gotcha. It will probably be a while, but that's what this page is for. --[[User:Shogun|Kitsuno]] 18:57, 17 March 2007 (PDT)
*"Mibu Roshigumi" is a proper noun. If the question is grammar matter, I am not appropriate person to answer.--[[User:Shikisoku|Shikisoku]] 01:16, 18 March 2007 (PDT)
== "notes" section ==
Are there footnotes for this article or not? There is a <nowiki><references/></nowiki> tag in that section, but no notes. --[[User:Shogun|Kitsuno]] 23:55, 23 July 2007 (PDT)