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:If the "Formal name" is listed as such (and it was uncommon to call someone Serizawa Kamo Taira no Mitsumoto") than it probably should go in the data section on the top. Japanese naming conventions are just plain outright confusing with childhood names, adult names, buddhist names, this name, that name, so I don't think there is any reason to treat the formal name any differently (i.e. put it in a "formal name" section in the top data section.) We've been using the "other names" as a catch all, but eventually I want to seperate out the different types of other names and list them individually on the data section, so this is a good way to start that. Basically, like the dates and uruu month issue, we'll just need an article and/or a link to explain it. Keeping everything standard and having links to explanations are better than trying to explain something in every article. So I think we should treat it the way we do the uruu months, just put them in as "usual", and when we get an article/description for the concept of "formal names", I'll link "formal name" to the applicable article. Seems the best way to handle it to me. --[[User:Shogun|Kitsuno]] 20:28, 1 February 2007 (PST)
:If the "Formal name" is listed as such (and it was uncommon to call someone Serizawa Kamo Taira no Mitsumoto") than it probably should go in the data section on the top. Japanese naming conventions are just plain outright confusing with childhood names, adult names, buddhist names, this name, that name, so I don't think there is any reason to treat the formal name any differently (i.e. put it in a "formal name" section in the top data section.) We've been using the "other names" as a catch all, but eventually I want to seperate out the different types of other names and list them individually on the data section, so this is a good way to start that. Basically, like the dates and uruu month issue, we'll just need an article and/or a link to explain it. Keeping everything standard and having links to explanations are better than trying to explain something in every article. So I think we should treat it the way we do the uruu months, just put them in as "usual", and when we get an article/description for the concept of "formal names", I'll link "formal name" to the applicable article. Seems the best way to handle it to me. --[[User:Shogun|Kitsuno]] 20:28, 1 February 2007 (PST)
We may need a page for "Names" to explain all those names. Anyway, I am going to post this to S-A forum to let everybody know.--[[User:Shikisoku|Shikisoku]] 21:46, 1 February 2007 (PST)
:We do need a page - I think Bethetsu is working one up - she's the expert on the various names. --[[User:Shogun|Kitsuno]] 21:52, 1 February 2007 (PST)
::It was uncommon to ''call'' someone by his full name. Though it was fairly common to write someone's full name in some formal documents. [[User:Seven|Seven]] 22:32, 1 February 2007 (PST)
:The whole "formal name" thing is sort of new to me, and it looks like shikisoku put it up on the forum for discussion - we'll get a concensus eventually. --[[User:Shogun|Kitsuno]] 23:01, 1 February 2007 (PST)
==Names?==
Just a friendly suggestion; I started to read this article today and came across this part: "In March, They named Mibu Roshigumi. The Mibu Roshigumi was hired by Aizu han the Military Commissioner of Kyoto In August, they were dispatched for the Political change on August 18. Lord Matsudaira Katamori evaluated their job and gave them new name Shinsengumi." The first sentence is of unclear meaning. Also, this passage tells that the name of the group was changed, but it doesn't say why or even what either of the names mean. While this would be easy to discover using an online kanji dictionary, I think these things would be very helpful and convenient to most people. Thanks. [[User:Azuki Arai|Azuki Arai]] 10:03, 16 March 2007 (PDT)
:This article is still mostly Shikisoku's draft that needs to be edited. It does say right in what you included that "Lord Matsudaira Katamori evaluated their job and gave them new name Shinsengumi." - so the name was changed to Shinsengumi from "Mibu Roshigumi", the first sentence meant that they "(were) named Mibu Roshigumi". I'll try to edit this today if I get a chance. --[[User:Shogun|Kitsuno]] 15:41, 16 March 2007 (PDT)
::Right, it does say that but what I was trying to say is that it doesn't say what these two names mean and why it was thought that Shinsengumi was a better name than Mibu Roshigumi. This could only take a sentence or two to clear up, and I think it would improve the article's clarity. I realize that this and many of the articles here are still in draft stages, and I wasn't trying to complain or point out error, only to add a friendly suggestion. Thanks. [[User:Azuki Arai|Azuki Arai]] 14:40, 17 March 2007 (PDT)
:Ah - I didn't think you were complaining, but I didn't understand what you meant, apparently. Yeah, something saying how "Mibu" was where they were located and "roushi" is equivalent to "ronin", etc. Gotcha. It will probably be a while, but that's what this page is for. --[[User:Shogun|Kitsuno]] 18:57, 17 March 2007 (PDT)
*"Mibu Roshigumi" is a proper noun. If the question is grammar matter, I am not appropriate person to answer.--[[User:Shikisoku|Shikisoku]] 01:16, 18 March 2007 (PDT)
== "notes" section ==
Are there footnotes for this article or not? There is a <nowiki><references/></nowiki> tag in that section, but no notes. --[[User:Shogun|Kitsuno]] 23:55, 23 July 2007 (PDT)