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::I've been thinking about it--I think there was something in the forums about this a while back, but the main article probably should not have 'no' in it. That way, we can be standardized across the board. The 'no' can be a separate redirect if it is used enough, but I think we should probably leave it out unless there is a really good reason to use it. To look at it another way--if someone sees a name in Japanese and doesn't know anything about it, they will look it up without the 'no'. It is easy enough for someone with a 'no' name to simply delete it out on their search. --[[User:JLBadgley|JLBadgley]] 16:10, 27 November 2007 (PST)
::I've been thinking about it--I think there was something in the forums about this a while back, but the main article probably should not have 'no' in it. That way, we can be standardized across the board. The 'no' can be a separate redirect if it is used enough, but I think we should probably leave it out unless there is a really good reason to use it. To look at it another way--if someone sees a name in Japanese and doesn't know anything about it, they will look it up without the 'no'. It is easy enough for someone with a 'no' name to simply delete it out on their search. --[[User:JLBadgley|JLBadgley]] 16:10, 27 November 2007 (PST)
:::The problem I see with not using "no" is that pre-Kamakura history books *do* include "no". When I first read Capital and Countryside, I felt so awkward not seeing the "no" in names in which I had been seeing it in multiple books before. If it were me, I would do "no" where it is already standardized (Heian and before), and write a resource page on the issue. I've got 7 days left before I leave the University -- I'll ask some kanbun and history professors. [[User:Nagaeyari|Nagaeyari]] 11:22, 9 December 2007 (PST)
::::We should probably take this to the SA Forum discussion here: [http://forums.samurai-archives.com/viewtopic.php?t=1267&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=25] [[User:JLBadgley|JLBadgley]] 12:18, 9 December 2007 (PST)
==Ako Affair==
==Ako Affair==
:::Should we capitalize titles? Also, should we try to include it in the Japanese name (e.g. Fujiwara no Udaijin Fuyutsugu) or should we just leave it as 'the Udaijin, Fujiwara Fuyutsugu'? Or does it really matter? Frankly, I find the latter easier to deal with when linking because you can link the name without something in the middle of it. --[[User:JLBadgley|JLBadgley]] 16:10, 27 November 2007 (PST)
:::Should we capitalize titles? Also, should we try to include it in the Japanese name (e.g. Fujiwara no Udaijin Fuyutsugu) or should we just leave it as 'the Udaijin, Fujiwara Fuyutsugu'? Or does it really matter? Frankly, I find the latter easier to deal with when linking because you can link the name without something in the middle of it. --[[User:JLBadgley|JLBadgley]] 16:10, 27 November 2007 (PST)
:<nowiki>[[Fujiwara Fuyutsugu|Fujiwara no Udaijin Fuyutsugu]]</nowiki> is fine, or the other way with both links - whatever works for the article. And I guess titles should be capitalized. The article the link points to would be capitalized no matter what, since the first word of an article title is automatically capitalized. The problems we have is that second words onward can be both, which screws up links. --[[User:Shogun|Kitsuno]] 21:59, 27 November 2007 (PST)