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Liaodongese is a term which is sometimes used to refer to a group of people who lived in [[Liaodong province]] (southern [[Manchuria]]) or neighboring areas in the late 16th to early 17th century, and their descendants. Though the Liaodongese are often described as being of mixed ethnic or cultural background, or by a variety of similar descriptors,<ref>Including descriptions of being [[Han Chinese]] under [[Manchu]] control, "balanced" "between" Chinese and Manchu cultures, or of "hybrid" culture or ethnicity.</ref> scholars such as [[Pamela Kyle Crossley]] have emphasized that [[Qing Dynasty|Qing]] society was not organized according to modern/Western concepts of "race" or "ethnicity," and further, that Liaodongese culture and identity - by whatever name - was its own distinct phenomenon; while we may not have a standard established name for this culture, this people, and so we adopt "Liaodongese" as a shorthand, their culture is still very much their own, a real thing which they lived, and not merely a mix or hybrid lying "in between" other cultures more well-recognized today. Crossley explains that the [[Han Chinese]] and Manchu ethnic/cultural identities, as starkly defined against one another, were largely an ideological invention of the Qing Court in the mid-18th century, and thus, like so much else, are socially constructed identities, and not natural, inherent, or given.

Liaodongese is a term which is sometimes used to refer to a group of people who lived in [[Liaodong province]]<ref>Southern [[Manchuria]]; the area just northeast of the [[Great Wall]] and northwest of the border with Korea.</ref> or neighboring areas in the late 16th to early 17th century, and their descendants. Though the Liaodongese are often described as being of mixed ethnic or cultural background, or by a variety of similar descriptors,<ref>Including descriptions of being [[Han Chinese]] under [[Manchu]] control, "balanced" "between" Chinese and Manchu cultures, or of "hybrid" culture or ethnicity.</ref> scholars such as [[Pamela Kyle Crossley]] have emphasized that [[Qing Dynasty|Qing]] society was not organized according to modern/Western concepts of "race" or "ethnicity," and further, that Liaodongese culture and identity - by whatever name - was its own distinct phenomenon; while we may not have a standard established name for this culture, this people, and so we adopt "Liaodongese" as a shorthand, their culture is still very much their own, a real thing which they lived, and not merely a mix or hybrid lying "in between" other cultures more well-recognized today. Crossley explains that the [[Han Chinese]] and Manchu ethnic/cultural identities, as starkly defined against one another, were largely an ideological invention of the Qing Court in the mid-18th century, and thus, like so much else, are socially constructed identities, and not natural, inherent, or given.

Notable Liaodongese include:

Notable Liaodongese include:

*[[Li Chengliang]], his son [[Li Rusong]], and the Nongsŏ Yi lineages which claimed descent from them

*[[Li Chengliang]], his son [[Li Rusong]], and the Nongsŏ Yi lineages which claimed descent from them

*possibly, arguably, [[King Taejo]], founder of the [[Joseon Dynasty]] of Korea<ref>Though said to be definitively of Korean ancestry, King Taejo was the son of Korean officials who served the [[Mongol]] [[Yuan Dynasty]], and grew up in or around what is today the border region between North Korea and Manchuria, an environment at that time settled by a vibrant mix of who we might today consider to have been ethnic [[Jurchens]], Mongols, Chinese, and Koreans.</ref>

*possibly, arguably, [[King Taejo]], founder of the [[Joseon Dynasty]] of Korea<ref>Though said to be definitively of Korean ancestry, King Taejo was the son of Korean officials who served the [[Mongol]] [[Yuan Dynasty]], and grew up in or around what is today the border region between North Korea and Manchuria, an environment at that time settled by a vibrant mix of who we might today consider to have been ethnic [[Jurchens]], Mongols, Chinese, and Koreans.</ref>

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