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Generally speaking, the assassin of Takeda Kanryusai was Saito but some researchers deny. As for Kato's seppuku, that is what generally believed but some researchers deny.--[[User:Shikisoku|Shikisoku]] 00:54, 25 December 2006 (PST)
 
Generally speaking, the assassin of Takeda Kanryusai was Saito but some researchers deny. As for Kato's seppuku, that is what generally believed but some researchers deny.--[[User:Shikisoku|Shikisoku]] 00:54, 25 December 2006 (PST)
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== Kiyohara Kiyoshi ==
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Kiyohara Kiyoshi's other name was 武川 直枝 - Takegawa Naoe or Sugue? Or is it something else?  --[[User:Shogun|Kitsuno]] 10:27, 25 December 2006 (PST)

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