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Takeda Kanryusai
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Shimada Kai's father's name was Kondo Iemon - was Shimada Kai's original name Kondo Kai, or was "Kai" also a name he assumed later?  --[[User:Shogun|Kitsuno]] 21:07, 24 December 2006 (PST)
 
Shimada Kai's father's name was Kondo Iemon - was Shimada Kai's original name Kondo Kai, or was "Kai" also a name he assumed later?  --[[User:Shogun|Kitsuno]] 21:07, 24 December 2006 (PST)
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== Takeda Kanryusai ==
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In Kanryusai's article, it says that he was killed by Saito Hajime, but there is a (?) after that - does it mean that it is unknown if he really did kill him?  Also, was Kato Higuma forced to commit seppuku directly because of Kanryusai?  --[[User:Shogun|Kitsuno]] 23:55, 24 December 2006 (PST)

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