User talk:LordAmeth

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I'm kind of amazed that there are so many basic topics that are not covered extensively. I do *not* mean that as a criticism, it's just surprising. I am more than happy to get started on some of these "big scope" articles, and hope that others will join in. It's actually kind of nice, for though there are niches on Wikipedia that are almost entirely untouched (the vast majority of work on ukiyoe, kabuki, and certain other Japanese topics are, I think, almost entirely done by me), I never got to do work on the real big topics. Here goes. LordAmeth 04:30, 16 June 2007 (PDT)


I've temporarily removed some of the categories you created until there are enough articles to give me an idea how best to categorize them. Since there are still a lot of potential categories without necessarily any articles to really fit into them, I'm sort of trying to stay methodical. Also, is the "royalty" category best described as "foreign"? If so, we should probably note that in the description to give it a clear differentiation from "emperors", "imperial family", etc. - but I guess that during the Kofun era in Japan there are some people who could be considered "royalty" too - I'll ask User:Nagaeyari when he gets back, he is the resident expert scholar on ancient Japan. --Kitsuno 20:19, 16 June 2007 (PDT)

Also, as an aside, since there are on average between 0-30 edits done to the wiki a day (unlike wikipedia), it is pretty useful to check Special:Recentchanges each time you log in to see what things are being worked on. Basically, if you keep an eye on any format correction I make to your articles, you should pick up the "accepted formatting" pretty quick. --Kitsuno 22:52, 16 June 2007 (PDT)

Emperor Go-Hanazono

Is the birth date for Emperor Go-Hanazono the lunar date or the western date? --Kitsuno 17:56, 17 June 2007 (PDT)

That was copied off of Wikipedia. I gather it's likely a Western date. I am still looking into finding calendar converters that do dates as well as years, and into a good denshi-jiten, but for now no luck yet. LordAmeth 18:06, 20 June 2007 (PDT)
Here is the best converter: Nengo Calc

--Kitsuno 19:19, 20 June 2007 (PDT)

Sengoku period category

It isn't apparent (at all), but the sengoku period category is sort of a special case - since there is no solid start or end time, and there is a lot of overlap, the general method for using the sengoku period category is to use only the sengoku period category when the major events/contributions of a person's life falls between roughly 1495-1615, even if they live beyond, or were born before it. We just consider them a "sengoku period figure". There are very few that had events/contributions that really spanned from pre to post-1495 or 1615. It's a little subjective and arbitrary, but the best way to keep the sengoku period useful, and also to not overpopulate the edo and muromachi periods. --Kitsuno 10:36, 21 June 2007 (PDT)

That's fine; I get your logic. I just haven't seen before a source that considers Azuchi-Momoyama on the same par as Muromachi and Edo as the period which comes between them; I've always thought of it as sort of a sub-section of Sengoku, which itself would be on the par of the other periods in the chronology of Nara-Heian-Kamakura-Muromachi-Sengoku-Edo-Meiji ... No big deal. :) LordAmeth 11:30, 21 June 2007 (PDT)

updated formatting

I just realized there was some stuff that had been incorrect on the help page for bios - The reading for names when they follow Kanji should be done like this ''(Takemoto Gidayuu)'' (Ironically enough the Takeda Shingen article used as an example was formatted incorrectly - i.e. (''Takemoto Gidayuu'').) Also, another thing I forgot to add in is that there should be two spaces between the data heading and the body of the article. I fixed them both in the help section now that I noticed they were incorrect. Now that I have an intuitive grasp of the formatting for this wiki, I need to go through and add to the help pages. --Kitsuno 02:32, 2 July 2007 (PDT)

Gotcha. So, italicize the parens as well, then? LordAmeth 08:04, 2 July 2007 (PDT)
Yup. --Kitsuno 11:29, 2 July 2007 (PDT)

Backslash question

This is probably a somewhat pointless question, but shouldn't User:LordAmeth\Articles actually be a forward slash to link it directly to your user page? I'm just asking because on wikipedia, it seems to be the forward slash that is used. --Kitsuno 01:58, 10 July 2007 (PDT)

Hey, good point. I hadn't given it much thought as to which it was meant to be. Thanks. I hope my oddball habit of keeping a list of articles I've worked on isn't annoying to see in the Recent Changes all the time. LordAmeth 02:03, 10 July 2007 (PDT)
No problem. I should have done it myself, but now not including what I've moved over from the main site, I probably have a few hundred that I've created from scratch, and so it would be too much effort for me to bother now. I'll try moving your page to the backslash, and see if that adds in the link to your user page. --Kitsuno 02:10, 10 July 2007 (PDT)
Keen! Thank you. LordAmeth 02:19, 10 July 2007 (PDT)

Kanji pages

I think for the time being it's just best to put the clans at the top, and the individuals in alphabetical order - the only logic behind that for now is that I'm sure there are a lot of people that we won't know which clan they are a part of, at least not without further research, so some pages would have them sorted by clan, and some wouldn't - rather than let it end up being confusing like that, I think we shouldn't try to separate them out yet, and just let the actual biography page indicate which clan they belong to. The kanji pages can serve more like an index rather than try to put in extra info that (in theory) should already be covered by the individual biographies. What do you think? And, nice work getting the kanji into the ashikaga page! It seems to be taking me some time getting the kanji - although I just realized I could probably hit up wikipedia for most of it. --Kitsuno 19:03, 17 November 2007 (PST)

Ah. I see your point about the not splitting up the clans. Will do. As this is a new thing, these kanji disambig pages, I gather that there'll be a lot of these little organizational details to work out. But I think it's coming along well. Unfortunately, I have to devote the next several hours to shukudai, but after that I'll be back to do what I can on this. .. I don't know what your take is on including people in this lists for whom we don't yet have articles, but the way I figure it, it's saving us work for later, and it's serving to make the lists a tad more complete. LordAmeth 19:13, 17 November 2007 (PST)
It's fine to add the people we don't have yet, since in theory we'll get them eventually. --Kitsuno 19:19, 17 November 2007 (PST)
Since no one is going to type a search into the box that looks like this: 蒲生 (Gamô), I think it is most useful to use macrons for these article titles - mainly because the straight kanji pages will redirect to them anyway. By the way, keep an eye on the proper spacing formats and other formatting - might be a good idea to put the pages you edit on your watch list to catch any consistent issues that need to be cleaned up. Don't get me wrong though, you've been a huge help, these are just minor formatting issues. --Kitsuno 18:52, 10 December 2007 (PST)
I do generally try to look over the Recent Changes.. as there's relatively little going on, it's quite manageable, and still wider than just a personal watchlist. ... Anyway, I am trying to remember all these little details (the colon outside the italics, etc), but they're so miniscule... maybe I should start using previous articles as a template to get these kinds of formatting things right. Thanks, Shogun. LordAmeth 14:46, 12 December 2007 (PST)
FYI, that's what I tend to do--find a well established article (I usually use something like Nobunaga or Shingen's article) and use that as a template. Of course, I still find myself with formatting issues every once in a while. Another possibility is make yourself a template in a local text file and then just copy and paste it in before you write the article (I always forget to do that). Hope that helps... --JLBadgley 03:30, 13 December 2007 (PST)
I'm a formatting Nazi - gotta be to keep things straight here :P I think the only major thing I notice is the need to put a space between the surname and given name (kanji), the hashmarks before the colon on ''Japanese'':, and two spaces between the bio info and the article, and one space bewtween the article and the references tag. --Kitsuno 19:51, 13 December 2007 (PST)

Year pages

Thanks for all that work on the year pages - it's really starting to fill out. --Kitsuno 23:35, 17 January 2008 (PST)

No problem. It's a relatively quick and easy thing - adding individual facts here and there, rather than tackling an entire topic. I recently got my hands on a Japanese high school history textbook which bizarrely consists solely of images with captions, maps, charts/graphs, and chronology lists - so it's super easy to look at just the chronology list for, say, foreign relations and sakoku from 1543-1688. LordAmeth 02:10, 18 January 2008 (PST)

Your question

I wasn't sure what you were asking here, and I think you might have missed my response:


Sorry. I've responded over there. I try to keep a good eye on the Recent Changes list (it's usually quite short, no need to use the watchlist instead), but I guess this slipped past me. LordAmeth 07:16, 29 January 2008 (PST)