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I'm starting to think that a slightly more general plot outline would work better, otherwise we are looking at a dozen pages of plot. Maybe a general plot outline, followed by a few subsections that describe a few of the major characters.  --[[User:Shogun|Kitsuno]] 18:41, 18 October 2006 (PDT)
 
 
'''Historical Equivalents of Characters'''
 
*''the actual historical characters who the fictional characters were based on''
 
 
 
Does anyone have that list that was posted somewhere at some point that gave the names of all the people the characters were based on?
 
 
 
:Yup.
 
:Akechi Jinsai-Akechi Mitsuhide
 
:Father Martin Alvito-Joao Rodrigues, SJ
 
:Beppu Genzaemon-Hojo Ujimasa
 
:John Blackthorne-William Adams
 
:Friar Braganza-St. Pedro Bautista OFM
 
:(Toda) Buntaro-Hosokawa Tadaoki
 
:Alban Caradoc-Nicholas Diggins
 
:Chano-Tsubone - Saigo-No-Tsubone
 
:(Yoshi) Chikitada-Matsudaira Kiyoyasu
 
:Chimmoko-fictional
 
:Father Carlo Dell’Aqua-Alessandro Valignano SJ
 
:Friar Domingo-fictional
 
:Elizabeth Blackthorne-Deliverance Adams
 
:Felicity Balckthorne-Mary or Elizabeth Adams
 
:Captain General Ferriera-Hoaratio Neretti
 
:Fujiko-fictional
 
:Fujimoto clan-Fujiwara
 
:Lady Genjiko-Asai Ogo (Tokugawa Hidetada’s wife)
 
:Go-Nijo �" Go-Yozei
 
:Goroda-Oda Nobunaga
 
:Gyoko-fictional
 
:Harima Tadao-Arima Harunobu
 
:(Toda) Hiromatsu-Hosokawa Fujitaka
 
:Ikawa Tadazuki-Imagawa Yoshimoto
 
:Ishido Kazunari-Ishida Mitsunari
 
:Ikawa Jikkyu-fictional
 
:Kiku-fictional
 
:Kiritsubo-noh-Toshiko �" Acha-no-Tsubone
 
:Kiyama-Konishi Yukinaga
 
:(Toda) Mariko-Hosokawa Gracia
 
:Brother Michael-Chijiwa Seizaemon
 
:Minikui-fictional
 
:Minowara clan-Minamoto clan
 
:Mura-fictional
 
:Yoshi Naga-Tokugawa Tadayoshi
 
:Nakamura-Toyotomi Hideyoshi
 
:Yoshi Noboru-Tokugawa Hideyasu
 
:Yoshi Nobunaga-Tokugawa Nobuyasu
 
:Lady Ochiba-Asai Chacha (Oichi’s daughter, Hideyoshi’s consort)
 
:Kasigi Omi-fictional
 
:Lord Onoshi- a composite of Konishi Yukinaga and Otani Yoshitsugu
 
:Vasco Rodrigues-fictional
 
:(Toda) Saruji-Hosokawa Tadatoshi
 
:Lady Suzuko-O-Kane
 
:Father Sebastio-unidentified ‘Portugall Iesuite’ who confronted Will Adams in Kyushu
 
:Sen-no-Nakada �" Sen-no-Rikyu
 
:Paulus Spillbergen-Jacob Quaeckernaeck
 
:Yoshi Sudara-Tokugawa Hidetada
 
:Lord Sugiyama-Maeda Toshiie
 
:Lady Tachibana-Lady Tsukiyama (Ieyasu’s first wife that he had put to death)
 
:Yoshi Tadateru-Tokugawa Tadateru
 
:Takashima clan-the Taira clan
 
:Yoshi Toranaga-Tokugawa Ieyasu
 
:Tudor Blackthorne-never named son of William Adams
 
:Uraga-noh-Tadamasa/Brother Joseph-Chijiwa Seizaemon (also the model for Brother Michael, as he was baptized Don Michael)
 
:Usagi (Fujiko’s husband)-fictional
 
:Kasigi Yabu-fictional (although I believe his personality was based on Saito Dosan)
 
:Yaemon-Toyotomi Hideyori
 
:Lady Yodoko-Toyotomi Onene
 
:Captain Yoshinaka-fictional
 
:Saigawa Zataki (Toranaga’s half brother)-fictional, although the daimyo of Zataki’s fief were historically the Satake
 
:Cabin boy Crook-Nagaeyari
 
 
 
[[User:Tatsunoshi|Tatsunoshi]] 08:30, 15 September 2006 (PDT)
 
 
 
Uh.. all that goes on the actual article page, not on this talk page :-P
 
Also, I remember that the book had a name list in it - did that also include a short bio/description of the character?
 
--[[User:Shogun|Kitsuno]] 10:11, 15 September 2006 (PDT)
 
 
 
 
 
:Well, I thought you wanted it for a section you were writing yourself. Anyway, it's in the article now.
 
 
 
 
 
:[[User:Tatsunoshi|Tatsunoshi]] 05:19, 16 September 2006 (PDT)
 
'''Miniseries'''
 
*''Info on the miniseries''
 
 
 
:thanks :-P I still don't really know how this section is going to work out, so I guess it doesn't really matter where it goes for the moment --[[User:Shogun|Kitsuno]] 12:01, 16 September 2006 (PDT)
 

Latest revision as of 21:41, 18 October 2006

I'm starting to think that a slightly more general plot outline would work better, otherwise we are looking at a dozen pages of plot. Maybe a general plot outline, followed by a few subsections that describe a few of the major characters. --Kitsuno 18:41, 18 October 2006 (PDT)