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:Well, Conrad Totman disagrees with my rule dates. I need another source. What do your books say? [[User:Nagaeyari|Nagaeyari]] 05:47, 29 November 2006 (PST)
:Well, Conrad Totman disagrees with my rule dates. I need another source. What do your books say? [[User:Nagaeyari|Nagaeyari]] 05:47, 29 November 2006 (PST)
:The [[Sengoku Jinmei Jiten]] says that he succeeded his father as head of the clan in 1580, and begain attacking Oda lands in 1582. --[[User:Shogun|Kitsuno]] 11:29, 29 November 2006 (PST)
:The [[Sengoku Jinmei Jiten]] says that he succeeded his father as head of the clan in 1580, and begain attacking Oda lands in 1582 after the death of nobunaga. --[[User:Shogun|Kitsuno]] 11:29, 29 November 2006 (PST)