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He was adopted to Shimada Sai of Ogaki han so original name might be Kondo Kai. But I do not have any confirmed source.--[[User:Shikisoku|Shikisoku]] 00:46, 25 December 2006 (PST).
 
He was adopted to Shimada Sai of Ogaki han so original name might be Kondo Kai. But I do not have any confirmed source.--[[User:Shikisoku|Shikisoku]] 00:46, 25 December 2006 (PST).
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:In Romulus Hillsborough's new book on the Shinsengumi, it says that "he studied the Shinkeitou style in Edo" - did he just get it wrong, or did Kai study that style as well? --[[User:Shogun|Kitsuno]] 01:14, 25 December 2006 (PST)
    
== Takeda Kanryusai ==
 
== Takeda Kanryusai ==