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==Photo==
 
What book listed the picture as Okita? Okita's picture doesn't existed.--[[User:Shikisoku|Shikisoku]] 04:12, 24 December 2006 (PST)
 
What book listed the picture as Okita? Okita's picture doesn't existed.--[[User:Shikisoku|Shikisoku]] 04:12, 24 December 2006 (PST)
  
  
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Kitsuno-san.Again, That's not Okita.--[[User:Shikisoku|Shikisoku]] 01:36, 16 January 2007 (PST)
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:While that's a possible photograph of him, it's more likely that it is not. (In other words, it's a rumor.) [[User:Seven|Seven]] 05:42, 16 January 2007 (PST)
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::What is the source for the photograph? It's worth leaving up with the caveat that it is an unlikely rumor, if the rumor has persisted - where did the rumor come from, or has it been conclusively proven false?  --[[User:Shogun|Kitsuno]] 08:21, 16 January 2007 (PST)
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The source of the photograph is a mystery.
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As far as I know, there is no books that mention the photograph as Soji.
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I have asked to a Japanese web site that listed the photograph,
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but they didn't even know where that came from.--[[User:Shikisoku|Shikisoku]] 16:32, 16 January 2007 (PST)
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:::This photo is the cover of a book published in 1977.  According to the book, the photo was found among Hijikata's belongings. Many historians believe it isn't Okita because the family crest on this man's clothes isn't the Okita family's. [[User:Seven|Seven]] 22:25, 16 January 2007 (PST)
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That's interesting. What is the book title? 日本語で--[[User:Shikisoku|Shikisoku]] 01:23, 17 January 2007 (PST)
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:"激録新撰組" (it's got three parts.)  [[User:Seven|Seven]] 03:38, 17 January 2007 (PST)
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Thanks. It seems the author is wresthling expert.--[[User:Shikisoku|Shikisoku]] 04:16, 17 January 2007 (PST)
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==calendar==
 
07/19/1868 <-This is Western(Gregorian) calendar. --[[User:Shikisoku|Shikisoku]] 16:51, 12 January 2007 (PST)
 
07/19/1868 <-This is Western(Gregorian) calendar. --[[User:Shikisoku|Shikisoku]] 16:51, 12 January 2007 (PST)
  
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:In 1868, the month of April (lunar calendar) was "repeated" (April was the intercalary month).  If we called 5/30 a month after 4/25, what would we call intercalary 4/30?  [[User:Seven|Seven]] 17:08, 12 January 2007 (PST)
 
:In 1868, the month of April (lunar calendar) was "repeated" (April was the intercalary month).  If we called 5/30 a month after 4/25, what would we call intercalary 4/30?  [[User:Seven|Seven]] 17:08, 12 January 2007 (PST)
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OK,I confirmed that Keio4 4th month had Uruu 閏.
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So please just mention your sources to back up when rewirting.--[[User:Shikisoku|Shikisoku]] 17:45, 12 January 2007 (PST)
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:Among the 9 Research Books listed, I've got 5 of them.  (In other words, a few of my sources have already been listed.) [[User:Seven|Seven]] 17:54, 12 January 2007 (PST)
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Please read.http://forums.samurai-archives.com/viewtopic.php?t=794
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BTW, Do you have calendars during the Edo period? That will be very helpful for all of contributers.--[[User:Shikisoku|Shikisoku]] 18:07, 12 January 2007 (PST)
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:Whenever possible, let's use both gregorian AND lunar. Maybe like:
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* 1/1/1111 (Gregorian)
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* 1/1/1111 (Lunari)
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As for intercalary, U shouldn't be used as it's the romanization. I'll wait for more members' ideas [[User:Nagaeyari|Nagaeyari]] 18:55, 12 January 2007 (PST)
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Let's move the discussion to http://forums.samurai-archives.com/viewtopic.php?t=1129
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It's better for all contributors to know.--[[User:Shikisoku|Shikisoku]] 19:11, 12 January 2007 (PST)
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:Shikisoku, are you saying that you'd like me to provide page references?  If so, please don't take this the wrong way.  Since you guys have only cited your references so far and a few of my sources have already been listed by you, I don't think that this draft is ready for providing page references when it comes to minor edits.
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:You don't mean calendars from the Edo period, do you? [[User:Seven|Seven]] 19:23, 12 January 2007 (PST)
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Not page references, basically if you add info, we want to get sources - for example wikipedia, which hardly ever cites its sources, is a pile of useless crap, so I want to make this stand far above the generally horrible wicrapedia. Basically, all that means is just put the book you get the info from in the "references" section on any given article. The "research books" section is just that, a list of research books, but they have nothing to do with the writing of the article - the "references" section does. So just add whatever book(s) you use to the references section when you add info.  Quick and easy and keeps this better than Wicrapedia - it keeps it verifiable and useful.  Obviously if you are just cleaning up a draft or whatever, you don't need to list a source.  --[[User:Shogun|Kitsuno]] 20:39, 12 January 2007 (PST)

Latest revision as of 07:16, 17 January 2007

Photo

What book listed the picture as Okita? Okita's picture doesn't existed.--Shikisoku 04:12, 24 December 2006 (PST)


Kitsuno-san.Again, That's not Okita.--Shikisoku 01:36, 16 January 2007 (PST)

While that's a possible photograph of him, it's more likely that it is not. (In other words, it's a rumor.) Seven 05:42, 16 January 2007 (PST)
What is the source for the photograph? It's worth leaving up with the caveat that it is an unlikely rumor, if the rumor has persisted - where did the rumor come from, or has it been conclusively proven false? --Kitsuno 08:21, 16 January 2007 (PST)


The source of the photograph is a mystery. As far as I know, there is no books that mention the photograph as Soji. I have asked to a Japanese web site that listed the photograph, but they didn't even know where that came from.--Shikisoku 16:32, 16 January 2007 (PST)

This photo is the cover of a book published in 1977. According to the book, the photo was found among Hijikata's belongings. Many historians believe it isn't Okita because the family crest on this man's clothes isn't the Okita family's. Seven 22:25, 16 January 2007 (PST)


That's interesting. What is the book title? 日本語で--Shikisoku 01:23, 17 January 2007 (PST)

"激録新撰組" (it's got three parts.) Seven 03:38, 17 January 2007 (PST)


Thanks. It seems the author is wresthling expert.--Shikisoku 04:16, 17 January 2007 (PST)

calendar

07/19/1868 <-This is Western(Gregorian) calendar. --Shikisoku 16:51, 12 January 2007 (PST)

Kondou died on 05/17/1868 (04/25 lunar calendar), Okita died on 07/19/1868 (05/30 lunar calendar)
In 1868, the month of April (lunar calendar) was "repeated" (April was the intercalary month). If we called 5/30 a month after 4/25, what would we call intercalary 4/30? Seven 17:08, 12 January 2007 (PST)

OK,I confirmed that Keio4 4th month had Uruu 閏. So please just mention your sources to back up when rewirting.--Shikisoku 17:45, 12 January 2007 (PST)

Among the 9 Research Books listed, I've got 5 of them. (In other words, a few of my sources have already been listed.) Seven 17:54, 12 January 2007 (PST)

Please read.http://forums.samurai-archives.com/viewtopic.php?t=794 BTW, Do you have calendars during the Edo period? That will be very helpful for all of contributers.--Shikisoku 18:07, 12 January 2007 (PST)

Whenever possible, let's use both gregorian AND lunar. Maybe like:
  • 1/1/1111 (Gregorian)
  • 1/1/1111 (Lunari)

As for intercalary, U shouldn't be used as it's the romanization. I'll wait for more members' ideas Nagaeyari 18:55, 12 January 2007 (PST)


Let's move the discussion to http://forums.samurai-archives.com/viewtopic.php?t=1129 It's better for all contributors to know.--Shikisoku 19:11, 12 January 2007 (PST)


Shikisoku, are you saying that you'd like me to provide page references? If so, please don't take this the wrong way. Since you guys have only cited your references so far and a few of my sources have already been listed by you, I don't think that this draft is ready for providing page references when it comes to minor edits.
You don't mean calendars from the Edo period, do you? Seven 19:23, 12 January 2007 (PST)

Not page references, basically if you add info, we want to get sources - for example wikipedia, which hardly ever cites its sources, is a pile of useless crap, so I want to make this stand far above the generally horrible wicrapedia. Basically, all that means is just put the book you get the info from in the "references" section on any given article. The "research books" section is just that, a list of research books, but they have nothing to do with the writing of the article - the "references" section does. So just add whatever book(s) you use to the references section when you add info. Quick and easy and keeps this better than Wicrapedia - it keeps it verifiable and useful. Obviously if you are just cleaning up a draft or whatever, you don't need to list a source. --Kitsuno 20:39, 12 January 2007 (PST)