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I think the word was created for the book title.--[[User:Shikisoku|Shikisoku]] 00:38, 25 December 2006 (PST)
I think the word was created for the book title.--[[User:Shikisoku|Shikisoku]] 00:38, 25 December 2006 (PST)
== Shimada Kai ==
Shimada Kai's father's name was Kondo Iemon - was Shimada Kai's original name Kondo Kai, or was "Kai" also a name he assumed later? --[[User:Shogun|Kitsuno]] 21:07, 24 December 2006 (PST)
He was adopted to Shimada Sai of Ogaki han so original name might be Kondo Kai. But I do not have any confirmed source.--[[User:Shikisoku|Shikisoku]] 00:46, 25 December 2006 (PST).
:In Romulus Hillsborough's new book on the Shinsengumi, it says that "he studied the Shinkeitou style in Edo" - did he just get it wrong, or did Kai study that style as well? --[[User:Shogun|Kitsuno]] 01:14, 25 December 2006 (PST)
心形刀流 Just different reading.--[[User:Shikisoku|Shikisoku]] 01:40, 25 December 2006 (PST)
:Looks like he just made a mistake. --[[User:Shogun|Kitsuno]] 09:33, 25 December 2006 (PST)
== Takeda Kanryusai ==
In Kanryusai's article, it says that he was killed by Saito Hajime, but there is a (?) after that - does it mean that it is unknown if he really did kill him? Also, was Kato Higuma forced to commit seppuku directly because of Kanryusai? --[[User:Shogun|Kitsuno]] 23:55, 24 December 2006 (PST)
Generally speaking, the assassin of Takeda Kanryusai was Saito but some researchers deny. As for Kato's seppuku, that is what generally believed but some researchers deny.--[[User:Shikisoku|Shikisoku]] 00:54, 25 December 2006 (PST)
== Todo Heisuke ==
I'm not sure exactly what this means: ''he recruited [[Ito Kashitaro]] group in Edo.'' Can you explain? Thanks --[[User:Shogun|Kitsuno]] 20:39, 25 December 2006 (PST)
Todo went to Edo to recruit new members.
Todo and Ito knew each other.
Todo asked Ito to join the Shinsengumi, Ito agreed to join with his pupils.--[[User:Shikisoku|Shikisoku]] 04:28, 26 December 2006 (PST)
== Kiyohara Kiyoshi ==
Kiyohara Kiyoshi's other name was 武川 直枝 - Takegawa Naoe or Sugue? Or is it something else? --[[User:Shogun|Kitsuno]] 10:27, 25 December 2006 (PST)
Naoe--[[User:Shikisoku|Shikisoku]] 04:31, 26 December 2006 (PST)
== [[Ibaraki Tsukasa]] ==
The book 血誠新撰組-峻烈壬生浪士忠と斬 says that when Ibaraki tried to leave the Shinsengumi he was killed (新撰組の大石鍬次郎らに斬殺された). But it goes on to say that his grave states that he committed suicide. What do your books say about this? I wonder if it isn't really known exactly how he died? --[[User:Shogun|Kitsuno]] 21:55, 26 December 2006 (PST)
Generally it is believed that Ibaraki,Sano,Tomikawa,Nakamura, those 4 members committed Seppuku together in the Aizu han residence.
*http://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E8%8C%A8%E6%9C%A8%E5%8F%B8
*http://www5f.biglobe.ne.jp/~seiha/taisi-ibaraki-tukasa.html
But some sources say they were killed by several Shinsengumi members include Oishi.
--[[User:Shikisoku|Shikisoku]] 06:12, 27 December 2006 (PST)
== 召し抱え ==
What exactly does 幕府召し抱え refer to? were 召し抱え (mercenaries) different troops from the Shinsengumi? A biography for Shibayama Tokusaburou says: 1867/6/10 の幕府召し抱えで平士に名を連ねている。What exactly does this mean? --[[User:Shogun|Kitsuno]] 21:11, 29 December 2006 (PST)
Shinsengumi were basically Ronin troop until
Bakufu officialy gave them positions in 1867/6/10(Please check the Shinsengumi Chronology).--[[User:Shikisoku|Shikisoku]] 05:25, 30 December 2006 (PST)
==To do list:Biographies Stubs==
I think there is no more informations for the listed members.--[[User:Shikisoku|Shikisoku]] 22:47, 24 January 2007 (PST)
:I'll check my books - I might be able to find some small amount for the empty ones. --[[User:Shogun|Kitsuno]] 00:36, 25 January 2007 (PST)
:I just found out that you have been adding more members. I am going to list them on [[Shinsengumi]] page.--[[User:Shikisoku|Shikisoku]] 04:37, 25 January 2007 (PST)
==Kano Michinosuke==
[[Kano Michinosuke]] is [[Kano Washio]].--[[User:Shikisoku|Shikisoku]] 03:41, 25 January 2007 (PST)
:oops, I'll combine them. --[[User:Shogun|Kitsuno]] 09:54, 25 January 2007 (PST)
==Dappan 脱藩==
How should I translate 脱藩 in English?--[[User:Shikisoku|Shikisoku]] 16:56, 7 January 2007 (PST)
:Doesn't it mean "to become a Ronin"? (or at least to "desert/flee" your han)? I believe the indication is that they would be leaving the service of thier lord without permission? --[[User:Shogun|Kitsuno]] 17:28, 7 January 2007 (PST)